• by reisse on 6/24/2025, 1:27:15 PM

    I'd wish there were movement for the privacy-conscious services to escape any regulation, not just choose the currently-politically-correct one. Like piracy sites did in 00-10s (abuse-proof hosting in Ecuador, shady domain registrar from SEA, zero search indexing) or crypto companies now (net of shell companies where not a single one is responsible for anything).

    My point is, if you trust the company you're using, also trust it to use any means necessary to protect you from bad actors, don't rely on the laws here. Both the corporate and the state ones. If you don't trust it, don't give it anything you cannot afford to leak or lose.

    Specifically, EU data protection laws are good to protect regular customers from the big corporations, but they offer little protection against the EU (and the member states) themselves. And if the risk you're hedging against is "yourself turning to big corp and abusing customers" moving to EU is okay, but not in any other case.

  • by 3D30497420 on 6/24/2025, 12:39:40 PM

    This has been awhile in coming. They incorporated in the Netherlands a few years ago: https://sourcehut.org/blog/2022-10-31-tos-update-cryptocurre...

  • by prasoon2211 on 6/25/2025, 11:04:18 AM

    This makes sense. And this is only accelerating - I talk to businesses in Germany and there's a genuine, non-insignificant number of people who want their data to be /physically/ in Europe.

    Take this to its logical conclusion and basically, every company will need to segregate their data in regions. Most cloud platforms aren't really designed this way but it's coming.

    There was a data locality law that India passed and Stripe had to do this massive migration project to segregate this data. I shudder to imagine what a more complex system would look like under such data locality laws.

  • by jl6 on 6/24/2025, 3:03:33 PM

    I’m not sure which is worse, the impersonal, automated, regulatory padded cells of US gov/tech hegemons, or the potentially very personal attention of a local lord with very strong opinions[0].

    [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41837782

  • by wyldfire on 6/24/2025, 12:37:33 PM

    The relevant portion of this change is the addition of "European" in "You must obey all local, US, European and Dutch laws ...", I guess?

    Not super clear from the link that's the case. Maybe sourcehut will make an explicit publication to this effect.

  • by tarkin2 on 6/24/2025, 1:53:55 PM

    Any recommendations for cheap VPSs in Europe? The company should be basee in Europe, not just the server location.

  • by bilekas on 6/24/2025, 12:49:01 PM

    Does anyone know the context around this ? It's not clear form the PR at all. Was there some US regulation/requirement that SH didn't agree with ?