by 000ooo000 on 5/24/2025, 12:19:02 AM
I hate hearing about it because it triggers some anxiety about my role (SE) changing to the point where it's not something I have any interest in. Producing software in the corporate world is absolutely soul draining; endless meetings, direction from fools, overheads like mandatory compliance/learning, all of the rituals that come and go because someone with authority read some garbage on LinkedIn. Besides pay, the only redeeming quality of the job is that for some part of the day, I get to just be inside my head, working on problems and coming up with solutions. Sometimes a few of us team up and we figure things out together. The software is the fun and rewarding bit.
If AI lives up to its hype, which is a whole other subject, then I expect to see the two things I like about my job vanishing quickly - the pay, and the problem solving.
by array4277 on 5/24/2025, 12:46:03 AM
As someone with a history of pathological demand avoidance: fuck your AI, I don't care if it's good or not, I'm never going to use it as long as it's being artificially hyped by increasingly unhinged idiots who are desperate for a return on their trillion dollar random word generator.
by AaronAPU on 5/24/2025, 1:37:12 AM
I’m enjoying the ride so far.
I’m not working on AI, but working with AI.
The leverage feels dramatic for a solo founder in my shoes. I think it’s all the cross-domain context switching. Gemini 2.5 Pro for academic type research, ChatGPT 4o for rapid fire creative exploration, o1-pro for one-shot snippets. Copilot for auto-complete.
It’s exciting honestly. I don’t know where we’re going but I do feel free and in a solid strategic position having my own company and not still being a cog in the machine.
by rchaud on 5/24/2025, 12:24:52 AM
We definitely need a "slow news" type of publication that analyzes developments in AI with a critical eye:
- Who does this move the needle for? How does it compare to how things are done now?
- How does the regular person benefit, if at all?
- What's likely to happen to pricing after the initial investor subsidization end? What does the price history of other 'unicorns' tell us? Airbnb and Uber used to be cheap once too.
- What is the valuation of "AI-first Company X" based on? Who are the insiders and what is their work background?
Too much AI news today is just parroting corporate press releases and CEO keynotes.
by jasonthorsness on 5/24/2025, 12:14:55 AM
I’m enjoying the AI wave immensely because somehow we get to TRY everything that actually matters (the new models and assistants and such) immediately from our own laptops. It’s way more fun than VR or blockchain or mobile at least for me. And it’s not all hype, it works really well in some domains, it’s better than Google for many queries, and I closed three PRs today raised by Copilot Agent (rather than suffer the back and forth I took one over halfway through but the other two were one-shots of simple but annoying maintenance tasks).
by xena on 5/23/2025, 11:52:45 PM
I'm actively seeking jobs that don't have me deal with AI. It's a rough market out there because I want to go counter to the hype.
by goalieca on 5/24/2025, 12:07:05 AM
There’s solutions looking for problems right now and big tech companies who are investing hundreds of billions and now having to sell it. Everyone is demanding AI being used to boost productivity.
It’s ironic though. VB6 macros in excel was a major productivity win. Point and click forms an MBA could whip up in 20 minutes. Software development libraries used to be much faster to develop for with far less boiler plate.
by hbartab on 5/24/2025, 12:00:10 AM
It's what happens when the hype is at maximum. It's really a bubble that's going to pop one day. Remember blockchains a few years ago?
Just relax and realize it's mostly FOMO: https://www.theregister.com/2025/05/06/ibm_ai_investments/
by ju8aka on 5/24/2025, 12:22:53 AM
I use it every day, I feel like I'm managing a team, I no longer do boring tasks, I control the result, I refine, I correct, the thing must do 80% of my work, their only limit is memory, it's quite exhausting to compensate. My timeline pours me a torrent of news every week that no longer seems to say only one thing: "we will replace you" and astronomical MRRs that tell me hurry up, it's the same FOMO as crypto except that crypto has given nothing compared to this storm, the transformation is massive, we are beyond good and evil, the contradictions are at their peak, the bubble will burst, it heats up too much
by thor_molecules on 5/24/2025, 12:30:06 AM
I think there is a bit of cognitive dissonance that comes with trying to build stuff with LLM technology.
LLM’s are inherently non-deterministic. In my anecdotal experience, most software boils down to an attempt to codify some sort of descision tree into automation that can produce a reliable result. So the “reliable” part isn’t there yet (and may never be?).
Then you have the problem of motivation. Where is the motivation to get better at what you do when your manager just wants you to babysit copilot and skim over diffs as quickly as possible?
Not a great epoch for being a tech worker right imo.
by amelius on 5/24/2025, 12:10:04 AM
One problem with AI is that it's a winner takes all market, in the end. Training models is expensive, so we're all just building our castles in someone else's kingdom.
Another problem is that we're turning any problem into a black-box, which takes the fun out of problem-solving.
by MarkusQ on 5/23/2025, 11:47:31 PM
This feeling isn't uncommon, nor is the pattern that produces it. Any time something new crosses a certain threshold the band wagon effect kicks in, it seems to be everywhere for a while, and then... life goes on (sorry doomers).
by dlachausse on 5/23/2025, 11:45:10 PM
Depending upon the niche that your software company services, you might be able to stand out in the market by not adding any AI features. At least if the HN crowd is anything to go by.
I think there are situations where AI as it currently exists is absolutely a value add, but often it does seem like it's been shoehorned into an existing product just to ride the latest trend.
by JKCalhoun on 5/23/2025, 11:55:11 PM
I'm retired. So it allows me to have a layman's, hobbyist's interest but I can easily ignore the startup and VC cruft.
Frankly, as a "user", not a potential employee, I don't give much of a fuck about anything more than what I can do with the thing right now. (Which is quite a bit in fact.)
by burnt-resistor on 5/24/2025, 7:53:45 AM
Yep. I just found the registry key to prevent Copilot from appearing in Windows Search on a secondary machine used for gaming only. I know Copilot can be removed entirely, but I'm not there yet (winget uninstall 9NHT9RB2F4HD).
HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Search\BingSearchEnabled:DWORD = 0
by heratsi on 5/25/2025, 7:23:41 PM
I work in AI and I second this emotion.
People wildly overblow upsides, make wild predictions, cherry pick results etc.
I can't read headlines like "Why the fact that some teachers are using AI to check homeworks means that there would be no teachers required".
by agarren on 5/24/2025, 1:00:04 AM
> It feels disingenuous but even companies I know and respect are adding questionable “agent” features that rarely work.
Word. I’m not a huge Microsoft fan, but it feels like they’re just shoving ChatGPT/copilot down your throat every chance they get. It’s integrated into everything - it’s useful when it’s useful, okay, but it generally isn’t. It’s one more Microsoft’ism that you have to learn to tolerate or simply ignore.
I can’t tell if Nadella’s really betting the farm on it all, or if he’s just trying to leave his mark.
by georgemcbay on 5/24/2025, 12:08:37 AM
I'm more bemused than burnt out... kinda surprised the hype around it doesn't get called out more often by developers.
LLMs as coding assistants are undeniably time saving devices, especially when working in languages/libraries/platforms/frameworks you aren't already very familiar with, or when needing to generate something very boilerplatey as a one-off.
I am not calling the technology useless by any stretch of the imagination, but its still just so wildly overhyped right now.
It is a pretty common occurrence these days for me to have a blog post open from some "AI industry thought leader" talking about how all developers will be out of work in a year while at the same time I have a Gemini window open and I'm just watching it absolutely flail on relatively simple things like generating a database query or a regex (that is novel and not something that's scattered all over its training set like a simple email validator).
And Gemini 2.5 is, IMO, the best of the models when it comes to programming assistance (having replaced Claude 3.5 which was IMO previously the best), at least for the areas I touch (lots of kotlin/KMP/Android/etc).
As goofy as Gemini sometimes gets it is far less frustrating than asking Claude 4 a question and watching it write out a whole ass answer but then correct itself like 7 times before finally coming to a shitty answer that is worse than 2 of the ones it wiped out while blowing through most of its context window on its loop of indecisiveness.
And relatedly... color me completely unsurprised that this thread got dumpstered off the front page so quickly. Gotta keep pretending like the singularity is going to happen next week.
:D
by paulcole on 5/23/2025, 11:56:36 PM
No. I use it constantly and get a ton of value out of it.
by wilsonnb3 on 5/24/2025, 12:02:23 AM
It’s just another hype cycle, they happen rather … cyclically.
I recommend ignoring them. Despite VCs trying to spend it into existence, we aren’t going to have another internet level event in information technology and the smartphone+laptop combo is peak personal computing.
I think we are near the crest of this wave but that just means the next one is coming, though.
by cardanome on 5/24/2025, 12:11:01 AM
Management at my company is prioritizing AI and genuinely believes adding random AI features into our products will add tremendous value. My pleas that we should maybe talk to customers to determine what they need has have not been heard.
I am having a lot of fun learning about generative AI. It is just a bit thankless because I know the stuff I am building will be dead on arrival. So, I will not get any praise regardless on how well I do my job, maybe even get blamed.
But hey, after all the junior devs have been starved because no one wants to hire them, I will make bank once the next AI winter comes and companies desperately look for people who can actually code.
If you have your own company you can just weather it out and invest in good talent. Really a good position to be in.
by bongodongobob on 5/24/2025, 12:00:26 AM
No, it saves me tons of time every day. It's fucking awesome.
by jeisc on 5/24/2025, 6:16:13 AM
hyping hyped hype
It’s not a post to deny that the field is moving and is very interesting to follow but it’s just become too much.
Every week there’s several new things, most examples are cherry picked, benchmarks are blown out etc.
I run a software company that has not added any AI features, mostly because the usefulness seems to fall below the bar for value that most of our features try to maintain.
I use ChatGPT personally for random searches and Cursor + whatever model is deemed best at the time but even with that it takes a lot of work to get something valuable out of it in day to day.
I feel like I’m losing my mind when I see startups posting 10m ARR numbers in just 6 months or whatever.
I’m hearing from VC’s churn is 15-30% in many of these companies and they’re far from profitable but the growth is just wild.
Do I succumb and just add yet another text generation that maps to an object like fill-in-the-blank app of the week?
It feels disingenuous but even companies I know and respect are adding questionable “agent” features that rarely work.
Anyway, how are you feeling?