by blackbear_ on 5/13/2025, 7:46:38 PM
by zwnow on 5/13/2025, 7:48:54 PM
If I got a dollar for every time someone says "Programmers will be replaced by..." I'd be replaced by retirement.
by nunez on 5/14/2025, 12:58:14 AM
Yeah, cool; I got into this industry because coding is fun.
If the future of the profession is endless meetings about ideas while AI does the work for me, then that's a crappy future and, honestly, there are people who are loads better at ideas than me.
by exolymph on 5/13/2025, 7:50:12 PM
Programmers are people with ideas. Without the ideas, you can't write the code.
by incomingpain on 5/14/2025, 11:10:09 AM
There is no chatgpt prompt that takes IDEA to functioning software program in rust in 1 go.
Even prompts that are good to produce the individual functions needed that make up the whole isn't really there. You still need to personalize or ask for further tuning of the code.
Which takes a programmer.
But now you dont have a programmer and language mess. You now have AI mess and language mess.
by brador on 5/13/2025, 9:25:25 PM
AI has been the greatest boost to my productivity since the instant feedback loop of PHP.
Every step it’s right there making me faster. It’s like horse drawn cart straight to a rocket ship. Invigorating, stimulating. I’m averaging 4 hours sleep because I just love creating with this tool.
by brg on 5/14/2025, 3:19:30 AM
Every big tech company has tried to do this, replacing programmers and engineers with product management and designers. Depending on the company, the trajectory of growth and development inversely correlates with the ratio of engineering to non-engineering.
by system2 on 5/13/2025, 7:48:10 PM
Error establishing a database connection is a good way of backing up this theory.
by mamcx on 5/13/2025, 8:17:32 PM
Well, I don't deny the possibility, but...
Have you looked at the ideas people had?
by jasonthorsness on 5/13/2025, 8:25:41 PM
The act of programming is changing, but I doubt LLMs are ready to replace clear thinking and the ability to maintain simplicity in the face of the ambiguity and complexity requirements.
by MattPalmer1086 on 5/13/2025, 8:19:10 PM
I get it - programmers are seeing an existential threat to their livelihood and they're trying to figure out what comes next. Some talk about how it will boost their productivity. Others talk about how coding wasn't what they really did, it was understanding business requirements. Some point out that AI is actually really crap and it can't really replace them. This is saying they should leverage it to become entrepreneurs.
These are all good conversations to have. We don't know where all this is going, but things are going to change.
by smtuttle13 on 5/13/2025, 8:22:39 PM
Isn't anyone going to mention Fred Brooks' "No Silver Bullet" paper? 8-)
by johnea on 5/13/2025, 7:59:20 PM
"See, I'm an idea man, Chuck. I got ideas coming at me all day..."
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Night_Shift_(film)
The drop line is the funniest though:
"Wait a second... hold the phone! Hold the phone! [speaking into tape recorder] Idea to eliminate garbage. Edible paper. You eat it, it's gone! You eat it, it's outta there! No more garbage!"
What'll they think of next? Just wait till "vibe ideas" put the idea men out of work 8-/
by johnaspden on 5/13/2025, 8:05:11 PM
Programmers will be replaced by whatever the superintelligence makes out of their atoms.
by jemmyw on 5/13/2025, 8:20:08 PM
Lots of people have ideas. Good ideas. I've got ideas. Ideas are hard to execute on, and not just the programming side. LLMs aren't going to help as much as the author thinks, you get about 1 level of complexity down and they need a lot more direction.
by drewcoo on 5/13/2025, 10:52:55 PM
Ideas are cheap.
by ravish0007 on 5/15/2025, 6:38:47 AM
good luck with that!
by juancn on 5/13/2025, 10:15:02 PM
Yeah, because the hard part of a business is the ideation not the execution
/s
> Error establishing a database connection
Oh, the irony.