• by taimurkazmi on 12/13/2024, 10:36:58 PM

    They wanna collect every single bit of data on us, right down to our medications and bodily functions, but don't want to collect any data on what they're doing to the environment and how much harm they're causing people.

    It's so transparently lopsided and malicious I dunno how anyone can't see through it

  • by m463 on 12/13/2024, 11:51:20 PM

    I think tesla is making its cars unsafe by removing critical controls and putting everything on the central touchscreen.

    A better safer tesla would have dedicated controls you could access without removing your hands from the wheel and status you could read without looking away from the road.

    Instead the turn signal stalks are gone, there is no gearshift lever, you have to read your speed and other status on the central touchscreen, and important features like defrost require looking away from the road and interacting with the touchscreen.

  • by miohtama on 12/13/2024, 11:20:09 PM

    >Tesla finds the rules unfair because it believes it reports better data than other automakers, which makes it look like Tesla is responsible for an outsized number of crashes involving advanced driver-assistance systems, one of the sources said.

    > NHTSA cautions that the data should not be used to compare one automaker's safety to another because different companies collect information on crashes in different ways.

    > Bryant Walker Smith, a University of South Carolina law professor who focuses on autonomous driving, said Tesla collects real-time crash data that other companies don’t and likely reports a "far greater proportion of their incidents” than other automakers.

  • by ggreer on 12/14/2024, 12:41:51 AM

    If you look at the NHTSA's data[1], certain manufacturers have strangely low numbers of reports, and some manufacturers seem to be missing from the data entirely.

    If you read the NHTSA's standing order[2], it says:

    > Crashes that meet specified criteria must first be reported within one or five calendar days after the manufacturer or operator receives notice of the crash, and other ADS crashes must be reported on a monthly basis.

    The phrase, "receives notice of the crash" is very important. I'm betting that most manufacturers have low report counts because only a few (like Waymo and Tesla) have instrumentation on their vehicles that automatically notify them when a crash has occurred and whether that crash involved self-driving software within the previous 30 seconds. Everyone else has to get notices via media reports, lawsuits, their own internal testing, etc. Even if a manufacturer has OnStar in their cars, it doesn't look like OnStar automatically reports the crash to the manufacturer, just emergency services and insurance companies. If they do, they'd also need to send info about the usage of any self-driving software before/during the crash.

    The order seems well-intended, but it does have the side effect of discouraging companies from improving their data collection.

    1. https://www.nhtsa.gov/laws-regulations/standing-general-orde... Look at the ADS and ADAS dashboards, and go to the "Reporting Entity" tab.

    2. https://www.nhtsa.gov/sites/nhtsa.gov/files/2023-04/Second-A...

  • by exceptione on 12/13/2024, 11:15:38 PM

    The title is:

    Exclusive: Trump transition recommends scrapping car-crash reporting requirement opposed by Tesla

    For Musk, buying Twitter and the State was a bargain.

  • by whoitwas on 12/14/2024, 11:29:32 AM

    This is fine. Let's burn it all down. Driving might become a whole lot more interesting.

  • by remram on 12/14/2024, 12:00:41 AM

    Elon Musk is cashing on his investment even earlier than I thought. Can't he wait until the presidency he bought even starts?