by rognjen on 11/26/2024, 10:12:59 PM
While admirable, a one time payment for a service you host is fair neither to you (what if I use it for 10 years) nor me (what if you shutdown tomorrow).
On the other hand, a one time fee for analytics I could deploy on my server a) makes financial sense for you and b) is an intriguing value proposition for me.
Have a look at https://once.com/
by vivzkestrel on 11/30/2024, 5:26:26 AM
As genuine feedback, you have a long way to go. First of all, plausible can be self hosted and it won't cost you a dime. Secondly, there are atleast 50 analytics services out there that are self hostable and they clearly indicate what features they provide. It is good expect value for your efforts but the other person buying for 49$ also needs to see value. Perhaps add a list of features, some GIFs, screenshots of your analytics tool in action showcasing various parts?
by grenran on 11/30/2024, 4:14:24 AM
> Problem is, I didn't feel like paying 9$ a month to see the amount of visitors on a website i didn't even earn anything on
You can self-host Plausible yourself if you don't feel like paying $9 a month.
by udev4096 on 11/30/2024, 8:46:22 AM
Your excuse for not using plausible is foolish. It's selfhostable. The real excuse would be creating a lightweight version of it because plausible is very much resource intensive. Also the price point doesn't really make sense.
by Symbiote on 11/30/2024, 8:17:43 AM
Maybe it's behind the payment link, but I would want to see your company name and registration number and your nominated data controller.
You should also list your data processors, for example your CDN and host.
by Avfrosta on 11/25/2024, 3:39:54 PM
Hello HN, realized I should introduce myself and not just my project. I building stuff on the web and this is the second time something I created actually goes LIVE.
Before this I created a website displaying snow conditions for a few hundred locations in Sweden. I love skiing and ski-touring and wanted a better way to find the best conditions.
Right now I don't have much time to work on my projects since I'm doing mandatory millitary service, which is part of the reason Simplytics.dev took so long to launch. But I'm hoping I might soon make my first buck selling zeros and ones.
Id love to recieve feedback, Hugo
by janmo on 11/30/2024, 8:04:56 AM
Regarding the pricing here is what I would do:
- Unlimited and free but basic metrics are public for everyone to see (similar to what Github did before)
- Paid but priced at page view consumption, for example: 12,000 page views a month will be charges 1.20 USD, 140,000 page views a month something like 5.20 USD etc...
This is something I might be willing to subscribe to.
by KomoD on 11/25/2024, 3:58:07 PM
You haven't provided a working link to your service, you said "simplytics.dev" but that doesn't resolve to anything:
; <<>> DiG 9.18.18-0ubuntu0.22.04.1-Ubuntu <<>> simplytics.dev
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 60075
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 1
;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 1232
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;simplytics.dev. IN A
;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
simplytics.dev. 1760 IN SOA aragorn.ns.cloudflare.com. dns.cloudflare.com. 2358025796 10000 2400 604800 1800
;; Query time: 7 msec
;; SERVER: 1.1.1.1#53(1.1.1.1) (UDP)
;; WHEN: Mon Nov 25 16:52:36 CET 2024
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 108
by probabilista on 11/30/2024, 7:33:14 AM
Why are you trying to solve a problem that does not exist ? If you want to self host Plausible - or X, Y, or Z - you can and it’s free.
If you want to create an analytics product and learn by doing it and sell it, that’s fine. But don’t say you did this because the problem was paying for Plausible.
by Armandopdw on 11/30/2024, 9:14:34 AM
Love the idea of going away from subscriptions. But to be honest, for my business I don't mind paying per month. For software that I use personally, I prefer the lifetime deals.
Also, are you still using IP address?
by georg-stone on 11/25/2024, 3:57:21 PM
I would love to check out the website, but it says the site can't be reached. Sounds promising though!
by piterrro on 11/30/2024, 9:05:44 AM
Curiosity: Can you share more about the header you're tracking?
by bpfrh on 11/30/2024, 9:25:04 AM
I would be very carefull with saying your are gdpr compliant without having talked to laywer.
Your are basically replacing a unique identifying attribute(ip address) with a unique attribute and a maybe unique attribute, to generate a unique attribute.
The problem is not the ip address, the problem with analytics is that your want to count unique visitors but are not allowed to track any properties of the visitor that are unique and hence a protected property of the visitor per the gdpr.
by eole666 on 11/30/2024, 11:42:45 AM
Congrats for the launch ! How does it compare to Matomo ?
Matomo is a well known open source Analytics alternative, GDPR compliant, used by millions, and it seems to solve the same problem while being freely self-hostable and offering more features. Its cloud version price is more expensive than yours thought.
by geewee on 11/30/2024, 8:00:04 AM
It's unclear to me based on your post, but you do realize that public IPs very much count as personally identifiable information under the GDPR, right?
by wayoverthecloud on 11/30/2024, 2:42:24 PM
So this is where the Indie developer trend is right now: open source analytics. I think I have been seeing replica of Plausible every other day. But I am glad the trend as shifted from the AI wrappers.
After months of using Google Analytics I realized only about 50% of people accepted my cookie-popup. I had months of incorrect data for my website. I started looking for alternatives and eventually found Plausible, which is great (and open-source). Problem is, I didn't feel like paying 9$ a month to see the amount of visitors on a website i didn't even earn anything on, it was just a hobby project.
Eventually I started making my own web analytics. Which actually isn't that hard. It took me about a month of working on my spare time every now and then. Being GDPR compliant basically means to not save any personal identifiers. At first I thought it would be easy since something like a public IP adress can't count as a personal identifier right? I was very wrong.
How it works: When a user visited my website I saved the IP and Header for 24 hours. Then if they visited again I checked the combination of IP and Header against the ones saved in my DB. If they were the same I simply added 1 view to my data. If they weren't the same I added 1 unique daily user and 1 view.
That's in short how it works. A few weeks later I realized if I had this problem then other would also have it. So I started working on Simplytics.dev. I had to do a lot of new stuff and re-build my code from the ground-up twice. Small things like OAuth was completely new to me and took up a lot of time.
But eventually I got here and just launched something that with the knowledge I have today wouldn't even take a third of the time recreating today. It's my first real "Launch" and it feels really good finally creating something AND publishing it. Instead of a montly fee I opted to make it a pay-once service. Right now it's priced at 49$ but I'll see how it works out.
If you got any questions on how it works Id love to answer them.