Vue 2 was the closest thing that I’d really like to use: just my data with methods + declarative ui with bindings.

Call me old-fashioned, I still prever model-view relationships separated. Can’t see what’s wrong with having a non-visual model that works on its own and then putting views on top of it to make it accessible to a user. Not only that, I don’t get why I would write model logic in a way that would nail it to a views system.

Js objects have observable properties and (with some care) they can even be shared across different subsystems/libraries.

What I’d like to see is a UI library that takes my “instanceof Foo” with its value properties, getter properties and methods and observes it. Then I write vue-like html or hyperscript with an assumed root object:

  import {num_fmt} from “…”
  import {my_counter} from “…”
  const view = (
    <button onclick={this.reset()}>
      Reset count: {num_fmt(this.count)}
    </button>
  )
  ui.mount(some_el, view, my_counter)

Js is absolutely full of features which all these frameworks are trying to reimplement for some reason. There are rough edges that Vue addressed (array obs mostly) and I thought that wow that’s its purpose with some helpers around it. Nice, the next step is to deprecate Options in favor of just js. But it went completely downhill since with sfc and composition and all.

Vue is great. I loved the old Options API and was resistant to the new setup/composables way of doing things. But as soon as I tried the new way I loved it. I think it will scale much better as well.

> Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann

I take it back. Buster, bullseye, bookworm, gibbon, fawn, eft, fossa, jellyfish, and numbat are amazing release names. What is this!?

I miss the old options API being the primary API :(

Not trying to start a framework war, but how do Vue and React compare nowadays? I don't use either, but am interested in learning.

thanks Evan + team, one thing I enjoy about Vue is the main API never really changes under you. compared to other frameworks.

Vue + Pinia is the pinnacle of frontend frameworks engineering by far, so far.

When will Vapor mode arrive?