by green-eclipse on 6/18/2024, 8:59:53 PM
by IG_Semmelweiss on 6/18/2024, 10:27:18 PM
Retail has had labor quotas (with serious health/mental consequences) since time immemorial, but i don't see any outrage against Sears, ToysRus, or BedBath.
Why ?
by solarkraft on 6/19/2024, 1:39:10 AM
I would be devastated if I was fined 6 cents after robbing an entire store
by fallingknife on 6/18/2024, 9:36:00 PM
The issue here is that Amazon had productivity quotas for its workers that were kept secret from the workers. It's the keeping a secret part that is illegal. On the one hand, this seems reasonable, but the fact that the law only applies to warehouse workers (the "Warehouse Quota Law") and was passed in 2022 makes me suspicious that this isn't a good faith worker protection law but rather specifically targeted at Amazon for political reasons. If this practice is so bad, why is it allowed for all other industries?
by 23B1 on 6/18/2024, 10:28:58 PM
1. Proportionality. Fines should be proportional to the company's size, revenue, and the severity of the violation. The financial impact should be significant enough to grab the company's attention and incentivize change.
2. Escalating penalties. Implement a system of escalating penalties for repeated violations w/increased monitoring.
3. Transparency. Publicly disclose the details of labor violations and the fines imposed.
4. Targeted sanctions. Temporary suspension of licenses, government contracts, at local, state & federal level.
5. Victim comp. Ensure that a portion of fines go towards comping the affected workers.
by ryandrake on 6/18/2024, 9:53:56 PM
Can Amazon even count that low?
by schneems on 6/18/2024, 11:46:59 PM
Is this more or less than they made from breaking said law.
I know regulatory capture is a thing but it seems like there should be some minimum “Crimes committed for financial gain that are punished with a fine must have a minimum fine of 100x the amount of money they made from the crime”
The 90’s saw a constant stream of journalists and politicians praising 3 strikes laws. Where’s our “100x FAFO laws”?
by harimau777 on 6/18/2024, 11:46:46 PM
Maybe I'm not following, but I'm seeing tons of responses saying that a low fine is alright because this is a local violation. What is the reasoning there? Doesn't the profit go to the corporation as a whole?
by ourmandave on 6/19/2024, 1:58:30 AM
Everybody saying slap-on-the-wrist.
But does the next time fine consider priors?
by ivanjermakov on 6/18/2024, 10:24:28 PM
Why taxes are proportional to income but fines aren't?
by shreezus on 6/18/2024, 9:51:27 PM
$5.9M is not even a rounding error for a $2T corporation.
by the_optimist on 6/18/2024, 10:19:59 PM
The company “failed to provide written notice of quotas” to employees, as required. Tape a sheet of paper on the wall with the numbers, done. Meanwhile, the antipathy of jealousy is palpable.
by metadat on 6/18/2024, 11:59:22 PM
by system2 on 6/18/2024, 11:49:11 PM
Amazon makes that money in mere minutes. This is not even a slap on the wrist.
by Arch-TK on 6/18/2024, 10:43:22 PM
5.9 cents? Where did they get the decicents from?
by itsTyrion on 6/23/2024, 3:53:23 AM
5.9 mil?? that's like fining a working class citizen 5 cents LMAO
by m463 on 6/18/2024, 9:55:44 PM
interesting that this is published on Jeff Bezos' newspaper.
by timetraveller26 on 6/18/2024, 11:10:21 PM
this is an insult to all working force
by numbers on 6/18/2024, 10:00:15 PM
Amazon made $64,809,782.60 in revenue every hour in Q3 2023.
Source: https://www.junglescout.com/blog/how-much-does-amazon-make-i...
by riiii on 6/18/2024, 9:28:22 PM
Wow, that won't teach them.
by sleepybrett on 6/18/2024, 11:24:09 PM
man, this is going to set them back at least 15 seconds.
by otikik on 6/19/2024, 12:08:48 AM
Oh wow $5.9M
Where are going to get their peanuts from now?
by StarterPro on 6/18/2024, 9:22:01 PM
That's, what? Half an hour of operation to them?
by cush on 6/18/2024, 9:45:41 PM
They make that every 5 minutes
by insane_dreamer on 6/18/2024, 11:52:39 PM
California: You're breaking the law. You must treat your employees better, or else!
Amazon: Oooohh, scary!!!
by bpodgursky on 6/18/2024, 9:42:59 PM
> California investigated two Amazon facilities near Los Angeles and in May found that the company failed to “provide written notice of quotas to which each employee is subject,” according to a copy of the citation shared with The Washington Post by the Warehouse Worker Resource Center, a nonprofit that advocates for improving working conditions at warehouses.
Very few workplaces have written quotas for employees. Be angry about Amazon or whatever, but let's just be real that if Amazon is guilty of heinous crimes for not giving workers a strict written quota, so are 98% of other employers, large and small.
https://archive.ph/HoERr