I can't use my M1 mini with non-retina monitor because of how blurry it is.

They stopped providing font anti-aliasing (default on Windows) few years ago in MacOS to make retina displays more relevant.

Is the RAM and SSD upgradeable? The baseline model is 8GB / 256GB, and very reasonably priced at $600.

Upgrading to 24GB is a whopping $400, and to 1TB is another $400. The $700 baseline seems reasonable. $1500 for a minimum usable machine seems more than a little excessive.

I really love the idea of Mac mini, but when you add some more RAM and disk price is almost the same as for MacBook PRO, where you get almost the same hardware a superb display and a keyboard built in. And you can carry it around with you. These machines almost make no sense because of that.

Apple is the undisputed king of never putting actual benchmarks in their info-graphs

"Available starting 1.24"

January the 24th? January 2024?

I wish the US would start writing dates in a sensible way!

disappointed to see them still selling these with 8gb RAM. More than a dozen chrome tabs and a few discord servers has been enough to crash/significantly slow down my m1 mac mini

edit: the ad says up to 24/32GB of ram, but seems like 8gb/16gb models are the only ones available for pre-order at the moment.

I'd still like a few more ol' fashion USB-A ports on there. I have so many things I need to plugin to USB-A ports still. My Mini only has 2 and it's just not enough.

>Dive into a multiplayer gaming session with SharePlay

How many AA multiplayer games are available on Mac? Not streaming, no VM, no Wine/CrossOver. Legit playable games. I know Minecraft, WoW, Civ6, and CSGO. Probably there is more but clearly not the target of Apple and the devs either

Why get the M2 Pro Mini when you can just opt for Mac Studio with M1 Max? They're roughly in the same price bracket.

The thing that's truly insulting is their trade-in offer for a late 2020 M1 8G/512G is only $330 vs. an eBay average selling price of over $500.

Apple: please give your customers ECC RAM, we take data integrity seriously.

Kind of shocked how many people here on HN are like "I'm totally fine with 8GB of ram on my mac". What? Isn't this hacker news? What are you guys doing with your computers? Are computers just toys now? Is HN no longer a space for professionals and hackers?

It's like a plumber saying they are totally fine using a $2 Walmart wrench. I just don't get it.

Sad how much the price ramps up beyond reasonable for what it is when you bump ram and storage.

First Mac to support 8K explicitly (in M2 Pro config)

I miss getting real innovation from Apple like in the 90s and 00s. For laptops, I still understand the appeal of serious power with all day battery life, here I am just getting less software choices and less upgradability than a Windows desktop for same price. It used to be that software innovations like running UNIX out of the box, automatic full backups and good music/photo/video tools made up for it. Now Windows and Chromebooks have all of the above, has to be something new to differentiate Macs. Like machine learning support in Applescript, so that it can select files that are likely to be my favorite, or photos of a person by name, or content relevant to current date/time/location... Or something different entirely, but exciting and useful in substantial ways. Sony and other Japanese companies used to be very innovative, now it's just overpriced stuff with compatibility issues, Apple is heading the same way. At least Dyson still makes products that are different, despite their narrow focus area, wish more companies were like that.

A M2 Pro Mini with a few spec bumps puts it at a similar price than a M1 Max Studio.

I was waiting for the Mini refresh but now I think I'll just wait for the Studio refresh and get one with M2 Max.

Kind of surprised to see a 10G Ethernet port as an option on these.

First time I've really been aware of an Apple product not just being like-for-like $->£ but actually a higher £ number: £649 vs. $599. For reference, $599 is £489.

Anyone know if the cheap model can handle 4k60 444 10bit over HDMI? "4k 60hz" is almost meaningless without more information. There are some reddit threads where people have issues with 4k60 444 10b on the (now) previous gen mac mini.

If they've fixed that, I would consider using this as an HTPC (as Otpimus and Movist are the only desktop video players I've found that seem to actually fully support HDR, my windows box isn't cutting it).

can this run dual monitors?

My first thought for this thing is to download Linux, Steam, and all the emulators you can and you've basically got a conveniently sized and priced home theater PC that can play any video game from 1990-2010 or so

Does anyone know if Mac Minis integrate with Xcode to perform distributed builds? It would be superb if a small software team could expense half a dozen Mac Minis to handle the team's build jobs.

I remember the first time I heard about someone getting a 1 GB hard drive -- I was astonished. I mean, I just could not believe it. Now people are complaining about only having 8 GB of RAM, lol.

"Today we package the same technology in our standard form factor, ram sizes, and we haven't innovated on design for years! it's new!"

Is it still huge? This thing should be much smaller now.

Technical limitation supporting quad monitors?

All devices should be upgrade-able and repairable by customers, we paid for it and we own it, we have the rights to change it easily. We need to enforce the right-to-repair law fast, and please sue Apple if it does not conform to it(along with its only-me and pay-me-30% apple app-store policy)

Already ordered. Been waiting a long time to get 32gb in one of these.

I feel like adding the Pro makes the Studio increasingly niche.

Wow, that's pretty weak. 32 GiB memory limit? In 2023 ?

Whatever happened to the Mac Pro line?

So should I buy this or build a PC?

$4,500 maxed out. $4,500 for a Mac mini. God. They really think people are going to pay $4,500 for a Mac mini, don't they?

Will there be a M2 Max Mac Mini?

The Max one is 185W

Nice hardware.

Too bad I can never put it in one of the industrial machines my startup builds, as these Apple computers are completely oriented towards end-consumers, locked with an AppleID, etc. in summary totally useless from a builders perspective.

It is quite sad that top tech companies nowadays produce mostly consumer electronics.

Last decade called, they want their base RAM spec back.

Nice upselling tactic to get 32GB of RAM ... /s