by s1k3 on 11/6/2022, 4:05:19 PM
Product management is why I’ve moved away from engineering and into startup building.
All of the fun work has been getting siphoned from engineers and put into PMs hands.
Software engineering now me feels like I’m an assembly line worker moving my tickets along the track. My value is based on how many widgets I produce.
by karmakaze on 11/6/2022, 4:53:06 PM
Generally the sequence is something like product research, product ideation, then product development where engineering gets involved. Engineering is quite aware of the impedance mismatches that can occur and try to voice them as soon as they become aware of them.
The best advice I can give is for product managers to be aware that products are not produced in a vacuum and to get input/validation from engineers on feasibility or other possibilities and iterate. This applies to everyone except say Apple where they can re-invent everything all the way down the supply chain.
by jjgreen on 11/6/2022, 1:41:28 PM
I think the product manager is key in a startup; for developers their principle role is to act as a buffer between development and sales/management, working out what's feasible, what's desirable. A good product manager makes a startup a nice place for developers to work, by giving them some space to do that work.
Disclosure, I've never been a product manager, but I have benefited from good ones.
by faangiq on 11/6/2022, 5:07:33 PM
1) low IQ 2) pushing garbage low value features that pile tech debt because their job is to push features.
Honest question, based on your experience as an engineer, tester, etc. I would like to know examples of what was helpful and what was not. I'm preparing a workshop for product folks on this topic.