by ajot on 1/28/2022, 5:51:40 PM
by cedricd on 1/28/2022, 8:21:24 PM
Explaining this just to make sure I get it.
When we cook we're bringing up food to a certain temp, then maintaining it at that temp till it's done cooking. If we could perfectly insulate it, then it could hold that temp as long as we want without being on the fire. So the only energy input is getting it hot -- after that it's cooking on its own.
So this is trying to approximate that by insulating the pot.
I always sort of assumed that there's a lot of heat 'loss' from food itself heating up -- as in most the cook time is getting the food up to the temp (i.e. when cooking a steak), not waiting for it to cook at the temp. But I suppose that for certain grains and stews and things that thinking is wrong.
by brudgers on 1/27/2022, 1:58:24 PM
A longer article that was cited, https://www.lowtechmagazine.com/2014/07/cooking-pot-insulati...
by blacksmith_tb on 1/28/2022, 6:02:46 PM
It's a very large teapot cosy, in other words. Seems reasonable, though obviously you still need some way to bring the pot up to temp (for that cast iron, induction would be efficient if not low-tech).
by ziggus on 1/28/2022, 6:32:57 PM
There's a few commercial versions of this idea that combine some sort of insulation with a vacuum container, which increases the efficiency.
https://www.cabelas.com/shop/en/thermos-cook-and-carry-syste...
by AmosLightnin on 1/28/2022, 8:08:19 PM
When cooking, the rate of heat needed to maintain the same temperature is exactly the rate at which the food is cooling. So heating up a pot and insulating it is roughly equivalent to heating up a pot and continually heating it to maintain the same temperature. If we changed the culture of cooking to recognize this, we could save a lot of energy.
by cultofmetatron on 1/28/2022, 5:29:50 PM
And this is why the instant pot is such a good value. It's very insulated and incredibly efficient
by nllewellyn on 1/28/2022, 9:25:44 PM
We used to cook up a stew or a joint in a casserole dish with a lid (like a dutch oven), and put it in a haybox for the day so we had a hot hearty meal at the end of a day outdoors.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_oven https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haybox
But I've just found this and it looks excellent! https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_cooking
by falcolas on 1/28/2022, 5:48:26 PM
TL;DR: It's just a good amount of insulation around a vessel (like a crockpot) that's been heated up in some other way.
by elitepleb on 1/28/2022, 11:14:42 PM
A great way to cook rice when electronic assistance is unavailable.
by aitchnyu on 1/29/2022, 7:49:13 AM
Styrofoam is stable upto 79 C / 175 F. But is it completely safe, especially from offgassing?
by turtlebits on 1/28/2022, 10:14:19 PM
These have existed for years in Asia. Just search for “thermal cooker”.
by foobarian on 1/28/2022, 5:40:16 PM
What problem is this trying to solve exactly
by fnord77 on 1/28/2022, 8:30:09 PM
so, styrofoam is not technology?
Little nitpick: the title is "The Fireless Cooker that Feeds Low-tech Magazine", as in "this is the fireless cooker we use".