• by cmroanirgo on 11/28/2018, 8:50:57 PM

    Found some interesting tidbits in their FAQ [0]:

    "Q: What type of text can Amazon Textract detect and extract?

    A: Amazon Textract can detect Latin-script characters from the standard English alphabet and ASCII symbols."

    So, English only. But very worryingly is that they're going to keep your companies' documents:

    "Q. Are document and image inputs processed by Amazon Textract stored, and how are they used by AWS?

    A: Amazon Textract may store and use document and image inputs processed by the service solely to provide and maintain the service and to improve and develop the quality of Amazon Textract..."

    "Q. Can I delete images and documents stored by Amazon Textract?

    A: Yes. You can request deletion of document and image inputs associated with your account by contacting AWS Support. Deleting image and document inputs may degrade your Amazon Textract experience."

    That said, I'm still baffled on what value-add they're providing? For me, from the name alone, it would generate other documents of common types: .txt (without images), .doc, .html (zip). That is, a large part of extracting text is the ability to reflow the text across page boundaries & columns. However, this product states that:

    "All extracted data is returned with bounding box coordinates" [1]

    ...which is how pdf documents lay things out in the first place...Have I missed something?

    [0] https://aws.amazon.com/textract/faqs/

    [1] https://aws.amazon.com/textract/features/

  • by danso on 11/28/2018, 6:34:34 PM

    Given how high and continuing the popularity of the "simple" conversion of regular PDF forms/tables -- even for the technically-sophisticated HN audience [0] -- if Amazon can deliver on OCR-to-data, that feels like a huge achievement. Not as sexy (or creepy) as Rekognition, perhaps, but almost certainly more day-to-day useful to the many, many professionals who work with documents and legacy data entry systems.

    [0] https://hn.algolia.com/?query=pdf%20convert&sort=byPopularit...

    - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18199708

    - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5487530

  • by raghavtoshniwal on 11/28/2018, 7:33:13 PM

    This plays so well with the theory of AWS taking a slice of all web activity. They are commoditising more and more complex tasks and enabling huge number of engineers to bootstrap their idea with amazing tech from day 1. A huge jump from S3/EC2 to this. Commendable.

  • by Edmond on 11/28/2018, 8:35:52 PM

    Not sure if this is bad news for the Robotic Process Automation (RPA) sector or an opportunity to offload the "Robotic" part while focusing on business process...

  • by efields on 11/28/2018, 7:03:56 PM

    Is off the shelf open source OCR not reliable for an image of reasonable fidelity, like a smartphone camera picture of a B&W text document?

    I ask because it feels like I should have an app that lets me scan with my phone, process the text with OCR, then let me plain text search every scanned document I have.

    The first part only natively made it into iOS Notes a year or two ago, but that whole experience above should be out of the box, IMHO…

  • by hhanshin on 12/5/2018, 7:10:33 AM

    Found some interesting tidbits in their FAQ [0]: "Q: What type of text can Amazon Textract detect and extract?

    A: Amazon Textract can detect Latin-script characters from the standard English alphabet and ASCII symbols."

    So, English only. But very worryingly is that they're going to keep your companies' documents:

    "Q. Are document and image inputs processed by Amazon Textract stored, and how are they used by AWS?

    A: Amazon Textract may store and use document and image inputs processed by the service solely to provide and maintain the service and to improve and develop the quality of Amazon Textract..."

    "Q. Can I delete images and documents stored by Amazon Textract?

    A: Yes. You can request deletion of document and image inputs associated with your account by contacting AWS Support. Deleting image and document inputs may degrade your Amazon Textract experience."

  • by BasHamer on 11/28/2018, 9:19:10 PM

    If this can get me tables out of pdf's generated by crystal reports it would be a godsend for testing. This has been a nightmare to try and solve, the best option so far has been adobe cloud but they don't offer an API for that. I'm excited to try it out.

  • by ocrcustomserver on 12/2/2018, 3:10:43 AM

    Some videos that were just released:

    Announcing Amazon Textract, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHX7q4pMGbo

    Introducing Amazon Textract: Now in Preview, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hagvdqofRU4

    Introducing Amazon Hieroglyph: Now in Preview (AIM363), https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnZFK_2oqKk

  • by gingerlime on 11/28/2018, 7:24:44 PM

    I have a personal flow using tesseract to scan docs into searchable PDFs, but it’s not that accurate. One of the main problems is that some (now most?) of the documents are in German since I live in Germany, but some are in English. There’s a way to choose the language but nothing to auto detect as far as I’m aware. I was hoping for some cloud AI service with superior OCR and simple integration or CLI (push a PDF and download one with OCR embedded). Google seems to be too complicated unfortunately... Any tips??

  • by ocrcustomserver on 11/29/2018, 3:28:55 AM

    This is very interesting. I'm curious to see how they will execute on several points:

    1. How it will deal with multiple templates that the system hasn't seen before. Especially when there is significant difference between the templates.

    2. UI/UX. E.g. how it will trace the extracted data to the original source and how it will show the confidence scores of each entity.

    3. Verification process, how will the workflow look like when the confidence score is low and the document has to be checked by human operators.

  • by citilife on 11/28/2018, 6:41:52 PM

    This looks a lot like what I've seen from companies such as InstaBase[1]. Given how hard it is to do well (largely due to poor initial images), I'm curious how Amazon's product offering will work.

    I a team I'm working with had a lot of success doing this, curious what method(s) they are using.

    [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instabase

  • by sbarre on 11/29/2018, 12:59:42 AM

    So this is Apache Tika as a Service?

    https://tika.apache.org/

  • by amelius on 11/28/2018, 8:56:26 PM

    Can't use this because my clients/contract don't allow sending of documents to third parties.

  • by ironfootnz on 11/28/2018, 9:55:29 PM

    Amazon Textract may store and use document and image inputs processed by the service solely to provide and maintain the service and to improve and develop the quality of Amazon Textract..."

    I still prefer the Dropbox solution for that, but I'm waiting them transforming into an API.

  • by jgalt212 on 11/28/2018, 10:10:36 PM

    I have been following this service from afar, as the founder is quite skilled. Seems a bit pricey, but does similar.

    https://www.pdfdata.io/

  • by blacksmith_tb on 11/29/2018, 12:42:02 AM

    I wonder if they have any detection of captchas, or if they'd let people just submit screengrabs containing them as 'documents' to be processed...

  • by foxhound6 on 11/28/2018, 6:46:42 PM

    Any idea if this can support handwriting even with a reduced confidence? Support for non-English languages?

  • by hbcondo714 on 11/29/2018, 12:11:53 AM

    Arg, you have to type in all your information even if you are logged into the AWS console

  • by dvtrn on 11/28/2018, 9:47:11 PM

    The FOIA geek in me is....well...geeking out over this. Slightly.

  • by jijji on 11/29/2018, 12:34:50 AM

    This is genius...

    1. make "strings" api 2. hook it to a web server 3. profit!